Hi, everyone.

I’ve created a new Lemmy instance particularly for the discussion of religion and topics relevant to religion.

Other Lemmy instances can sometimes feel a bit hostile to religion, and I’m hoping to create a place that feels a bit more supportive.

If you’re interested, feel free to go create a new community there. I’ve also gone ahead and created communities for Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, and Hinduism, and if you’re interested in modding one of those, let me know.

https://faithlemmy.online

  • AuroraZzz@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    These religious cults have their hold on the rest of the world and the regular Internet, and are quickly destroying the country that I am living in. They always seem well intentioned at first, but will prioritize whatever they think their God tells them to do over what is actually good for the rest of us. Religion isn’t fun or kitschy or interesting to learn about outside of its mythology and should be treated with more fear and disgust as a societal ill over any possible reverence

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      5 months ago

      Things you don’t like should be forbidden. Is that how you advocate for a free society?

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        5 months ago

        Religions are intolerant of people that don’t believe/follow it’s teachings. A tolerant society that tolerates intolerance becomes an intolerant society

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          5 months ago

          American evangelicalism is like that, radical Islamism is like that, a few other religious schools are like that. But the common religious form is not specially intolerant, not much than a philosophical school or a political party. Do you want to fight all people who have opinions in the name of tolerance?

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            5 months ago

            common religious form is not specially intolerant

            There are several aspects in which religion can harm the society.

            The most pressing issue, currently, is that the moderate believers, who are in it mainly for the traditions and cultural identity tend to support the fundamentalists seeking power, because at the end of the day, they do believe in the same set of rules and laws. The moderates are just not making a big deal out of breaking them.

            The other, rarely discussed topic, is the normalization of disinformation. Every new generation is being indoctrinated to believe fantastical statements, by the power of authority, yet when they grow up and replicate the behavior in form of alternative medicine, political propaganda, tendency to believe in fictitious conspiracies, we’re surprised. Because every religion shares the one fundamental property. It’s based on a believe in what is not true.

            • edited because I went slightly offtopic at the end.
            • Zloubida@lemmy.world
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              1. It’s not q question of moderate or fundamentalist. I’m an extremist. An extremist of love, acceptance and solidarity because that’s what I understand when I read the Bible. I fight the fundamentalists, both in the outside and in the inside. And I’m far from alone.

              2. Religion is not based on belief in the untrue. It’s based on belief in the unknowable. Used rightly, religion is on the opposite a way to fight superstition as it helps people thinking rationally on these subjects. I emphasize “used rightly”: of course what you said is true of fundamentalisms.

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                5 months ago

                Even if we accept that religion is not fundamentally based in “untrue”, it certainly glorifies the blind faith. At least the christianity does.

                One of the verses that made me doubt the whole thing was john 20:29:

                Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

                I’ve been listening to that verse sunday after sunday after sunday… and it felt more wrong every week.

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                  I wouldn’t say “blind”, but yes it’s about acting on ideas that may be wrong. But you do that when you marry someone (does they actually love you? You can’t know), or everytime you trust someone. Life is taking decisions without knowing. It’s the same with the existence of a God: the only purely rational position is agnosticism. But for me, to be agnostic is like refusing to accept the love of someone because they may betray you. It’s a rational decision, it may be enough for you and it’s okay, but for me it’s not enough.

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                    5 months ago

                    When we take decisions without knowing, ignorant decisions, we not only hurt ourselves, but those close to us. It’s simple statistics.

                    I wouldn’t betray a love of my family or friends by willingly endangering them for my religious believes. See, the love argument goes both ways. :P